Resiliency The Podcast

Ep29 � 1 Year Anniversary Show
Asef Quader (01:16.706)
Welcome to Resiliency, the podcast one year anniversary special. One year ago today, fresh from our TEDx Paris adventure, we sat down behind these microphones for the very first time with one big dream and zero clue of what the hell we were going to do and how much this journey of resiliency would change us. In the past 12 months, we've had powerful conversations with leaders, change makers,

Dr Kelly Culver (01:33.789)
Haha!

Asef Quader (01:43.798)
and everyday heroes from all around the world. We've cried, we've laughed, we've learned, and most importantly, we've started a community of resiliency.

So once again, I, Asef Quader, executive producer of Resiliency of the Podcast, am back to host and ask our two hosts about the past year, our favorite moments, biggest lessons, and what's next for Resiliency of the Podcast. This is going to be a celebration of the year we've had and a vision for the years to come for the resiliency we are building. Let's get into it. Ladies, are you ready?

Dr Kelly Culver (02:21.297)
yeah, super ready.

Jenn Quader (02:21.419)
yeah, I'm ready.

Asef Quader (02:24.792)
Happy birthday!

Jenn Quader (02:28.203)
See the bag,

Asef Quader (02:30.85)
Did you guys get me anything?

Jenn Quader (02:32.907)
Yes, a loving marriage.

Dr Kelly Culver (02:33.859)
come on.

Asef Quader (02:35.555)
You did?

Dr Kelly Culver (02:37.744)
I didn't get that email.

lucky just to be here today. didn't get that email to get you something. Come on, man.

Asef Quader (02:46.062)
Well, I'm happy you came dressed for the occasion, Kelly. Thank you for the t-shirt. I haven't been yelled about that.

Dr Kelly Culver (02:48.89)
Yeah, underdressed, underdressed.

Jenn Quader (02:52.427)
I'm glad we're starting with shade. I think that's important.

Dr Kelly Culver (02:54.214)
We are shame, shame, shame, shame. So listeners, I used to give Asef a really hard time because he would show up wearing a t-shirt thinking he was Steve Jobs. And I've had one, I know, and I've had one hell of a time just showing up today and I'm in a black t-shirt, no lipstick. Nothing. And he's dressed up.

Jenn Quader (02:56.885)
Shamed.

Asef Quader (02:58.274)
Well,

Jenn Quader (03:05.365)
He thought it was soup time.

Jenn Quader (03:13.576)
Not one shred of lipstick.

Asef Quader (03:13.87)
And I wore a black t-shirt. Let's get it straight. I was wearing a black t-shirt.

Dr Kelly Culver (03:19.396)
So you gotta take me as I am today in wonderful sunny downtown Turkey Point on Lake Erie. Whoa, yeah.

Jenn Quader (03:25.745)
Woo, woo! Dr. Kelly, we will take you as you are every day, all day. And it's a proof of your resilience that you are here with your strong fiber optic internet, because my understanding is it's a warm 40 degrees Celsius where you are, and there's internet woes.

Asef Quader (03:26.03)
Perky points! Gobble gobble.

Dr Kelly Culver (03:32.732)
No.

Dr Kelly Culver (03:42.108)
yeah, so thank you, thank you, thank you.

Asef Quader (03:46.414)
There's nothing like being resilient in hot weather with a t-shirt. Well, speaking of gifts, speaking of gifts, we are now launching a Resilience to the Podcast merch store where you'll be able to find Resilience to the Podcast mugs, among other things. It's small to start off with, but there will be a link down below in our YouTube channel. I'm sure there's going to be links all over all our socials and of course on the website.

Dr Kelly Culver (03:51.174)
Dear.

Jenn Quader (03:51.179)
Whew. Ugh.

Asef Quader (04:14.798)
So we're excited for that. hope everyone can go there, get your resiliency mugs, get your resiliency tumblers, get anything else we have. We love you guys. We love the support you guys have given us. Please go out there and get something. So like I said in the intro, this is going to be an episode about what we've kind of learned throughout this past year, what this year has taught us in resiliency. So I'm going to kick us off. I think I'm going to start. Excuse me.

Dr Kelly Culver (04:27.31)
Yay!

Asef Quader (04:42.892)
I think I'm going to start with Kelly. Kelly. She's resilient.

Dr Kelly Culver (04:45.816)
Mm!

Jenn Quader (04:49.085)
Mmm, beautiful. She's ready.

Jenn Quader (04:54.953)
doctor thereof.

Dr Kelly Culver (04:56.164)
Yeah, some days I wonder.

Asef Quader (04:57.08)
Kelly, what guest conversation or behind the scenes moment of this past year has stuck with you the most and why?

Dr Kelly Culver (05:06.744)
Okay, so this isn't gonna be the answer that you probably think I would give, but when we started this podcast, it was to showcase the nine Ted Talks that we had done, and we'll get into that a bit later. And then we opened it up to all kinds of people from all kinds of different places. And what I've loved is...

the backstory for every other guest we've had outside those, TEDx talks, because the pre-recording fun and the post-recording fun for me in every episode makes me realize this is the best part of the job that I have.

Asef Quader (05:49.294)
Absolutely, I totally agree. I think the relationship that we've built together is one of my favorite things, especially the behind the scenes moments, how many times we get together and laugh and cry and yell at each other for wearing t-shirts. All of it is, it's great. I love it. It's really become a passion project for me. This is one of my favorite things that we're doing.

Dr Kelly Culver (06:02.734)
Haha!

Dr Kelly Culver (06:14.236)
10.

Asef Quader (06:14.55)
Jen? Jen? Jen? What is your favorite moment? What's your favorite behind the scenes conversation guest that stuck with you over the past year?

Jenn Quader (06:15.899)
Me? Yes, what? Would you like to?

Jenn Quader (06:24.715)
Well, it's interesting because I would say like, I agree that a lot of the behind the scenes has been really fun and been really, really kind of sticky. I think I'm an onstage kind of kind of gal. So I really like what has made it, you know, to out to the audience. And I think that what I'm amazed by is that we can ask a really simple question like, what does resilience mean to you? And I credit Dr. Kelly with really giving us that structure of saying, hey, let's always ask the same thing. And that through the...

eyes of these different people, are really redefining over and over resilience, which is what it takes. You know, we talk a lot about resilience as like nature, it has to reinvent itself over and over. So, but I, in thinking about this, if I had to pick one thing and this, you know, again, to Kelly's point, there's so many, there's things that made me laugh and cry and world changing things. But for me right now in this one year, I'm also a small business owner.

And I will tell you that Mr. Tom pricing, who was a guest that Dr. Kelly helped hook us up with, and he was, you know, a global head of operations for Apple for many, many years. And I really stick with this thing he said, he said, you have to see past the mountain. And I feel like every day there's a mountain, you know, Kelly had a mountain today trying to get, get this going, you know, whether it's a small mountain or a big mountain, it's a mountain. And so the ability to see past that. So to me, that one really sticks out.

Asef Quader (07:50.414)
Yeah, definitely. I love Tom Pricing's episode. He was really great. And to follow up with the set about redefining resiliency, I don't think we're redefining anything, but what I do think we're doing is finding all the, what is it, Kelly, 47 definitions, 48 definitions of resiliency. We're exploring each one. We're diving into each one and everybody's resilience story is different, yet all of it is resiliency. So it all kind of surrounds.

Dr Kelly Culver (08:05.436)
Yeah. Yeah.

Asef Quader (08:18.434)
The one topic that we're diving into, it's fantastic. I love it. Like I said, this has been such a huge passion project for myself and I enjoy every minute with both of you. It's great.

Jenn Quader (08:29.619)
So if I may, since we're discussing, you said, I don't think we're redefining resilience. And I'd love to, can we just like dive in on that? Because to me, I think we are redefining it in a way and help me, you know, we can just get into the grammar on this or the, we're actually saying it. But to me, it's like being able to see, I'll give an example of like women in business. If you've grown up and all you've ever seen are men in business and how they behave and you begin to see role models.

then you are reinventing that for them. You know what I mean? You are reinventing what that looks like. And I think by bringing together people who are talking about resilience from so many different aspects and then making that through line so clear, to me, are, and so help me see the better word for that then, because what is it we're doing with, I'm so interested to know from you guys' perspective.

Asef Quader (09:22.008)
I think we're teaching. I think we're teaching resiliency

Dr Kelly Culver (09:23.484)
We are, but you know what? I'm gonna stay with redefine. I like words with re, like resilience, resile. That's the verb for resilience. So we're not gonna go academic or anything, think of like rethink, reimagine, reinvent, you know, all of those possibilities that start with a re. And let's go to the last guest we had.

Asef Quader (09:38.156)
you

Dr Kelly Culver (09:49.371)
who's the coach for Theater World and the Studio D, Cynthia. Okay, so you know what she said to us? She said, somewhere in the middle of her podcast, she said, thank you for having me on because you have helped me redefine resilience. I only ever thought about it as grit or determination or pick yourself up or you've been slapped down and you've got to get on and do it again to understand that resilience is about love.

Asef Quader (09:54.414)
Cynthia, Cynthia.

Jenn Quader (09:55.275)
Cynthia McGonagall McGarrity, yes.

Dr Kelly Culver (10:19.374)
It's about opportunity. It's about seeing the purpose and the mission and the value. She'd never looked at resilience that way. I think we are redefining it for people. And if our listeners can have that light bulb moment to look at their world through a slightly different lens, we've changed somebody's life.

Asef Quader (10:42.232)
goal. I love it. Let's move on. I'm gonna

Dr Kelly Culver (10:44.828)
You

Jen, did you want to say something Jen? She opened her mouth. Okay.

Jenn Quader (10:49.575)
No, no, was, I really was, well, the only thing was I felt something there, you know, like I feel what you're talking about with love and opportunity. And I do think we, think Asef's is what we can move on, but I will say that I think, and he's probably gonna move to a question like this, but in hearing other people bring things like love into resilience, it has helped me redefine it.

And I think that's something that I think we're gonna talk about a little bit. But again, and then I was only gonna say too that Asef didn't get to share his number one thing that, one number one learning he's taken from Resiliency to Podcast in our first year.

Asef Quader (11:28.736)
I honestly think what we're talking about right now is what I've learned. think, well, I guess the question isn't what I've learned, right? It's what's my favorite moment. I'm going to say what's my most memorable moment, right? What's the question? Let me read the question again so I get it right. What moment of the past year has stuck with you the most? I would say Kelly getting mad at me for wearing a t-shirt.

stuck with me so I never wear t-shirts anymore. I throw them all away. They're all burned. I don't even own a t-shirt anymore. They're gone. They're gone. Yeah. So that stuck with me. My poor t-shirts. Yeah. All gone.

Dr Kelly Culver (11:59.255)
Stop it.

Jenn Quader (12:02.677)
She was strict. She was very strict.

Dr Kelly Culver (12:07.26)
That's so mean. I am so mean.

Jenn Quader (12:08.841)
Jenn Quader (12:13.149)
your poor t-shirts. He still owns t-shirts, Kelly. They're all over the house.

Dr Kelly Culver (12:16.72)
Yeah, no kidding, he does.

Asef Quader (12:20.972)
No, I think...

To be perfectly honest, I sit down and I talk with every single one of our guests before they come on the show. So I have a very intimate knowledge of their story when we get into it. And every single one has something different to offer. Every single one I have taken lessons from. There are some that are still affecting me. There are some that inspire me. It's hard to pick just one.

next question I have, I'm going, I do, I have picked one because it was so powerful. so I'm going to jump into that and I'll, I'll, I'll start off with that. And really what the question is, is, which, sorry. I take it back. Okay. So I screwed that up. next question is which guests or conversation or behind the scenes moment has stuck with you that, stuck with you the most and why.

I read the questions out of order, so I apologize. So we are, I'm just going to edit this part out. So I'm going to say which guest has affected me the most. The one that has affected me the most was Denise Akiyasu. And it really was from our first conversation that we had, our little pre-meets where I talked to her about her story and it.

Jenn Quader (13:29.301)
Good. I think we're doing fine.

Dr Kelly Culver (13:31.568)
Yep. Yep.

Asef Quader (13:55.694)
profoundly affected me in a good way because what she said to me near the end of the conversation, and I think she touched on it in the actual episode, what she said at the very end of conversation, she'll have people come up to me and say, I'm having such a bad day, you know, I left my lunch at home or I...

Mike, I need to stop by the gas station on the way home. I don't have time for it. And she just looks at them and they don't know her story. And they're like, yeah, that's really bad. And it's just really to know that there's someone out there who has it much harder than you, even with all the things that you might be going through, are people who have it harder than you. And to reflect upon that and to know that.

everything you're going through will get better. Someone out there definitely has it harder than you. So without trying to be too condescending, up.

if that makes sense. Okay.

Jenn Quader (15:08.619)
That does make sense. I think I can say that when you talk about the guest that has been most impactful, the person who came to my mind was also Denise Akayasu. And in fact, when you said that that was yours, it teared me up because I wasn't sure that you would. know, we've had a lot of guests. think about Daniela Alba. I think about Laura Corey, who is, you know, there's so many people who really inspired us. But I think

When you talk about Denise, and I'll remind our listeners that Denise is someone who grew up and experienced genocide in her youth and is now, you know, happy and wonderful and running an HR department and doing all sorts of things. And I think, again, I'm going to talk just because this particular episode is about us looking at how resilience has affected us in this first year. And what I remember is that that episode went so beautifully and then

After the episode, I like went under my desk and just sobbed. And what I remember sobbing about, it wasn't like, I feel so bad for her or like, how could the world be so awful? Which of course it was. I mean, hearing about the slaughter of humans, of all humans, it just was unimaginable. But what I cried about was that what I took from that episode was that she said, if you want to move forward, if you want to be resilient, you must forgive.

Asef Quader (16:39.118)
powerful.

Jenn Quader (16:40.245)
And that ties it to that love. ties it and it ties it to self love because you have to forgive yourself for what you couldn't do. You have to keep being able to do that. And I think that when it gets to that deep and we start to understand on a human level that whether we're like trying in our careers or whether we are coaching people or whatever life we're walking in, we're all trying to get to that place where we can forgive others and ourselves in a way that makes us resilient.

Asef Quader (17:08.174)
Well put. Well put. Okay, next question.

Asef Quader (17:16.822)
Let me know, guys, let me know if I screw this all up because I.

Dr Kelly Culver (17:20.22)
Let's talk about the magic of the connection that the two of us share. Let's go into that next.

Asef Quader (17:24.354)
Did I go through the, in the first year of resiliency podcast, what's the single most surprising lesson you've learned? That's the, that was the first, that was supposed to be the first question. It is? we did.

Jenn Quader (17:31.797)
That's what we answered first. I thought we already answered that. Yeah, we answered that already. that was the person you asked.

Dr Kelly Culver (17:32.764)
But I think we answered it. So yeah. Yeah.

Asef Quader (17:38.135)
Okay.

Dr Kelly Culver (17:39.44)
Yeah, yeah, we're good.

Asef Quader (17:42.316)
And then did Kelly answer which guest conversation behind the scene moments? All right, all right, all right. Kelly, how has being part of this podcast changed how you personally define and practice resilience in your own life?

Dr Kelly Culver (17:44.378)
Nope, but let's go ahead to the next one.

Jenn Quader (17:45.673)
No, but we can go to the next thing.

Dr Kelly Culver (18:00.123)
Okay, so my answer again might be different because I've studied this for a long time. And Jen and I met doing Ted Talks where we were talking about resiliency in our lives and in other ways. it has not changed. This podcast has not changed how I define resiliency or how I practice it in my own life because I was already hardwired to do that before we started the podcast.

What it has done for me is shown in the beauty of the world how resilience manifests itself so differently in different ways in different people's lives. Like the thing with me is resilience is not a fixed concept, it's dynamic. And what we're doing in these podcasts is we're showing that dynamism of resilience and that makes me so happy.

Jenn Quader (18:57.471)
You know, Dr. Kelley, it's so cool to me because what you're talking about is like the combination of science and art. You know, like you've studied this from a scientific standpoint. And so you understand what are the actual one, two, three, what must be done, you know, and I'd like to just plug for a minute that you have a company called Resilience Nexus that does this for other companies. It helps them go through this process, identify, you know, plans for their resilience and do that.

Dr Kelly Culver (19:03.612)
you

Jenn Quader (19:24.843)
which again I'll give you a moment to comment on, yeah, it's a huge benefit in the world, but I want to just say that then when you talk about what we're creating, and I think this ties back to kind of where we're coming from, this podcast is art. It is a way to walk through a museum of humans and see how do they experience this scientific concept in life and in truth.

Dr Kelly Culver (19:26.8)
Thank you.

Dr Kelly Culver (19:39.718)
Mm-hmm.

Jenn Quader (19:48.839)
really it is how art meets science. I'd love to hear your thoughts on that and also a little more about resilience nexus if you can.

Dr Kelly Culver (19:54.877)
Well, I love the fact that you describe it as art and science because that's to me, you know, that's what it is. It's the art and the science of being able to bring these two pieces together. And again, I come back and say, this is the most fun I have in anything I do related to resilience. It's this podcast. And I look so forward to doing it.

Because with Resilience Nexus, it's a company based in London and we work with companies and countries around building resilience, resilience strategies and things like that. And that's fun and it's super cool and all of that. However, this is where I just see such relevance in all of that work that I've done. So thank you, Jen.

Asef Quader (20:36.686)
you

Jenn Quader (20:40.779)
Thank you, Dr. Kelly. You bring the science and we'll bring the art. Let's go, let's do it. And we'll all make it together, which is the communal resilience. It's beautiful.

Dr Kelly Culver (20:41.468)
Yeah, absolutely.

Asef Quader (20:50.574)
So this leads into our next question. We've all spoken about this in many episodes, about the magic of the connection you two share. How has your working relationship evolved from the early Paris TED Talk to now?

Dr Kelly Culver (21:09.276)
10.

Jenn Quader (21:09.931)
I would love to say okay look I to me I've got to say that I think that you're asking this question about the the Connection between me and dr. Kelly, but I think that that the real question has to be the connection between Jen dr. Kelly and Asef I think that Asef is the met like without Asef there is no spice in the dish. There's no salt There's no pepper. There's no you know it's like because

Dr Kelly Culver (21:12.56)
you

Dr Kelly Culver (21:24.913)
Mm-hmm.

Dr Kelly Culver (21:31.227)
Mm-hmm.

Jenn Quader (21:34.092)
So I think that what happened is Dr. Kelly and Jen just fell in deep love. Like we just met each other and we just love each other and we just know that we love each other and we understand each other on a deep level. But both of us have some paths we have to walk. This is just, know, she has a very global path that she is walking. have a very commercial real estate and finance focused walk that I'm walking and there are things we have to do. And I think Asef.

you bring us together in a way that first of all you've lived it and I think we talk a lot about like we started with TEDx talks but you started like experiencing cancer over and over and having a bone marrow like you like physically went through something that that taught you resilience on a cellular level and so you became kind of this sticky glue that held us together so I would say that in this year what's happened is we've gone from kind of

early dating, first love into like, we're in a relationship. Like, this is what we do. We do it together and we understand where we're headed. And that to me is resilience because it's ever regrowing and redefined.

Asef Quader (22:41.902)
Well, I appreciate that. Thank you. But I think we've all been through something that requires resilience. I think every human has done that some more than others, but I think we all have our resilience stories. Obviously you were both speakers at the resilience Ted talk in Paris. So you have your own great stories of resilience. I think, I think the key here and why we get along so well and why this podcast is doing so well right now.

is because we have a shared mission. And I think any team that is successful has a shared goal. And that goal for us is spreading the message of resiliency. And we both, all three of us love that mission. We all take pride in that mission. Kelly made it her life's mission to do it. I think that is the reason why our connection is so strong, because we share.

the passion of resiliency. And I am very thankful for the both of you that we are all doing this. We're all on this mission together.

Jenn Quader (23:51.02)
I'm thankful too for every single person who listens. And that might be leading us to our next question, but that has been also something magical for me. Again, in the world of artistry and in business, and PR and marketing, which I do, you're always looking at like, what's the numbers? How many numbers? How many countries are we in? But this is not about numbers. they're all doing great, but what's really important is the people and the impact that we're making. And I think we have a really shared vision for that.

Asef Quader (23:53.891)
Mm-hmm

Dr Kelly Culver (24:05.276)
You

Jenn Quader (24:20.939)
I'd be interested in hearing what Dr. Kelly thinks about that, about that impact, because I know that she's seen that on a lot of different levels, is what I would say.

Dr Kelly Culver (24:31.132)
I have and it's really exciting. I I haven't had anybody stop me on the street and say hey you're dr Culver from resiliency the podcast and I am so waiting for that moment Not yet, so it's gonna happen

Jenn Quader (24:42.183)
Not yet, man, not yet. It's coming, baby.

Asef Quader (24:44.344)
You

Dr Kelly Culver (24:48.604)
But what I'm hearing from people that I know who listen to the podcast or who have been introduced to the podcast by people I work with, it's consistently, number one, you guys have so much fun. So it's fun to listen to because you have fun. There's a connection there. And that every person that we have on, there's some kind of message, there's some kind of life learning. I even, my business partner, Peter Jones,

has said to me on a number of occasions, he said, I wrote down some of the lessons because I know I can apply them in my life. I've heard from other people in London and in Paris who've listened to this to say, the breadth of the people that you talk to is just so interesting. I tune in every week because I don't know who's coming next. And I think that's the beauty of it is we're not just focused on business or education or healthcare or something. You don't know who's gonna show up. We like that excitement and surprise.

Asef Quader (25:45.624)
That's great. love it. It's funny because I think you're you kind of trampled on the next question is Jen had alluded to, which was and I'm going to focus. I'm going to focus it on Jen now. Have you heard from any listeners whose feedback made you realize the podcast was making a bigger impact than you expected?

Jenn Quader (26:02.901)
For yes, I have. I think similar to Dr. Kelly, there's, you know, no paparazzi has shown up as of yet to see like, you know, what did she wear? I know.

Asef Quader (26:09.806)
You

Dr Kelly Culver (26:10.246)
Damn.

Asef Quader (26:14.104)
How's the hair?

Dr Kelly Culver (26:14.3)
That was the hair.

Jenn Quader (26:16.011)
that hair. I'm waiting today. She's very big. She's got a lot going. She's got a lot to say today.

Asef Quader (26:20.998)
And to our listeners, before we start every episode, Dr. Kelly has to ask Jen, how's the hair? How's the hair doing? It's its own personality. It's its own character.

Jenn Quader (26:29.287)
But she has a temper. Sometimes she's like really, she does and she'll show you what we're doing today. She's got the whole personality. I love it. So what I have noticed is like, I would call it like a punch of connection. just going through my day to day life, all of a sudden my phone will ring and it's a colleague that I work with through a client or I work through an association.

Dr Kelly Culver (26:31.652)
Yes, she does.

yes she will.

Asef Quader (26:35.96)
Ha ha ha.

Asef Quader (26:39.534)
Yeah.

Jenn Quader (26:57.951)
And I answer thinking like, my gosh, what might they need? And they're just like, I am listening to your podcast and I just had to call and tell you how amazing it is and how much I'm getting from it. Like the energy that I get from it, people get jazzed. It helps them. And I think it has to do with, again, this art and science, there's fun and then there's depth. It really is a beautiful explanation of the human experience of resilience. And I think...

Asef Quader (27:03.906)
You

Jenn Quader (27:25.353)
What I like is that people could tune in any time to any episode. This is like a timeless piece that allows you to dive in and just at any point get revved up. And I think that's what I'm hearing from people that I work with, from my family, and from others. So I think it's definitely growing in a really organic way that's impactful and has a lot of positive energy.

Asef Quader (27:53.376)
Okay, here are a couple of fun questions for you.

Jenn Quader (27:57.248)
We like fun here at Resiliency, the podcast.

Asef Quader (28:00.096)
If you could dream big for year two, close your eyes, picture it. You're now dreaming. No limits on resources or guests. What do you want to have the podcast accomplish or become over the next 365 days?

Dr Kelly Culver (28:01.308)
You

Dr Kelly Culver (28:26.082)
I want it to be like a resilience festival.

Jenn Quader (28:31.743)
Yes!

Dr Kelly Culver (28:31.918)
in all of those permutations. And I'm not gonna talk about guests, because you never know where they're gonna come from, which is the really cool thing. But I'd love to, for us to, in year two, no limitations. We're together, we're recording the podcast in the same place at the same time, over a period of time, and it's because Jen, as Jen has alluded to this, we wear different hats.

So we have to have the right hat on to come into this podcast to be fully present so that people have the best experience, including ourselves. And I'd like to be able to say, know, these three weeks are resiliency, the podcast week, and we're gonna go here and we're gonna record and it's gonna be a festival and we're gonna do all of these cool things that it's, it is experiential.

Jenn Quader (29:19.637)
You jazz me up, Dr. Kelly, I'm ready. I am ready for resilience fest. I see it myself. I think I too see like, I see this moving, I would call it like off the page. You know what I mean? And I guess in the world of digital, it's off the, I see this coming to life more and more. I think that, I think the podcast is now back in the day in my early PR agency years,

Dr Kelly Culver (29:19.804)
Ha ha!

Asef Quader (29:21.166)
You

Jenn Quader (29:47.66)
our managers would say, hey, you know, gotta do the block and tackle. That's just, pitch everybody. And then on top of that, you do that. So I think what I'd like to see is that the podcast becomes the block and tackle. It's just happening. We're bringing in the guests, we're having the conversations, you know, and that's what I feel hitting this one year mark that I see that like, like that's the block and tackle. Now I wanna add, I don't have any Asef gonna have to help me here. I can't add on sports things, but I wanna add the innovation.

like you said, the experiential, the real life. What would that look like in sports, honey?

Dr Kelly Culver (30:22.364)
Ha

Jenn Quader (30:24.075)
Now what would you add to the block and tackle? So you got your block and tackle down, you're good. But where would you go next to make the game better?

Asef Quader (30:24.29)
What does resiliency look like in sport?

Dr Kelly Culver (30:27.129)
It's vision

Asef Quader (30:36.91)
Oh, geez. Are you talking for us? Are you looking for a sports analogy? Oh, boy.

Dr Kelly Culver (30:40.335)
Yes!

Jenn Quader (30:40.831)
Well yeah, block and tackle. Isn't that football? I? Dr. Kelly, am I so lost that I'm on the wrong sport?

Asef Quader (30:48.642)
You know, at first I thought you were talking about fishing, so I have no idea what the hell you're talking about.

Dr Kelly Culver (30:50.812)
was gonna say the same thing. That's a fishing. That's a fishing analogy.

Jenn Quader (30:55.179)
No, totally different. My bad. Didn't explain it well. Sorry guys. Kelly got there, but I bet our listeners didn't. Sorry guys. It's been long morning.

Asef Quader (31:01.357)
You

Dr Kelly Culver (31:03.612)
I knew what you meant. I knew what you meant.

Asef Quader (31:04.023)
No, no.

Dr Kelly Culver (31:14.288)
God, I'm at a cottage full of fishing poles right now.

Jenn Quader (31:14.429)
Asef Quader (31:14.754)
No, I think...

Jenn Quader (31:18.091)
I mean it makes sense. Tackle, tackle, tackle.

Asef Quader (31:21.038)
To what I think you were trying to allude to is that we are slowly building. We're putting the pieces in place so that we can slowly build a resilience festival. We're off the rails. Are we a little off the rails? No, no, never, no.

Jenn Quader (31:25.099)
Just that way.

Jenn Quader (31:37.515)
Yeah, a little off the rails. No, Dr. Gillies said no. A little off the rails.

Dr Kelly Culver (31:37.754)
No, never.

Nope. We are so on the track.

Jenn Quader (31:45.733)
well, no more sports. We'll stay away from that.

Asef Quader (31:46.766)
Straight and narrow. No more sports. Yeah, sports analogies, not Jen's cup of tea.

Dr Kelly Culver (31:48.806)
there.

Jenn Quader (31:52.007)
Not Jenn's Forte! Nope. Moving on. Next topic!

Asef Quader (31:59.202)
All right, all right. Another fantasy question. Okay, what?

Dr Kelly Culver (32:00.669)
you

Jenn Quader (32:02.347)
Wait, wait, I want your answer to that. You're the executive producer. I would really like your vision for the next 365.

Dr Kelly Culver (32:06.234)
Nah, you didn't say anything.

Asef Quader (32:08.748)
No. So, okay.

My vision for the next 365 is to grow what we've started. We started for one year. If you go back to our first episode, which I've done periodically here and there and compared it to how we have moved forward, it is night and day, almost scary. Yeah, a little bit, little bit. Though I will say, Jen and I talked about it this morning, the first episode we had, which was Daniela Alba, we recorded three different times.

Dr Kelly Culver (32:28.473)
You're lovin' your hat off.

Asef Quader (32:42.238)
due to technical errors, because as I stated in the beginning of the show, we had zero clue of what the hell we were doing. So, but we kept at it because that's resiliency. No, we have, we have grown so immensely from where we started. And I just want to see that growth continue. I want to watch our listenership continue to grow. want to be valuable to the people who listen to us.

Dr Kelly Culver (32:46.236)
You

Dr Kelly Culver (32:50.94)
Mm-hmm.

Asef Quader (33:11.854)
I want our guests to feel heard. I want to get to a point where Resilience Fest is a reality. I think that would be amazing. How cool would that be to have just a festival of resilience? mean, wow, that would be the best. That's my goal. That's what I want to see. I think it's a very, I don't call it stoic view of it, very logical step by step. We got to move slowly but surely.

Ideal but that's what I see

Dr Kelly Culver (33:44.209)
And you know, the other thing that's really cool is we have had guests on. know, I like whether it's during the podcast or when it was done, who've asked to come back. So we know we're doing something right, right? I know we've had two, I'm thinking of two who've said, I want to come back. Simon Greenman, Simon wants to come back. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Asef Quader (33:55.438)
Absolutely. Yeah. Who wants to come back?

Jenn Quader (33:55.52)
Yes.

least. so many. he was the best. Brilliant human. Brilliant. Yeah.

Asef Quader (34:01.742)
yeah, love Simon. Yeah, that guy was Asef. If you haven't heard that listeners, listen to Simon's episode, Simon Greeman. It's all about AI and it is eye-opening. It is really, really cool episode. If you're into AI or just getting into that world, listen to that episode.

Jenn Quader (34:22.933)
But yeah, I, okay.

Asef Quader (34:23.074)
All right. No, no, no, please don't.

Jenn Quader (34:26.731)
was just gonna say, think that we've had several guests who they come on and to Kelly's point, our audience understands, hey, this is fun and also I'm learning. And I think the guests, all the guests are like, man, this was really fun. I would do this. The experience is there. so bringing that to life through Resilience Fest, through however we will continue this community. And I would also like to say that I'd like to see us take this out and we will, that we'd be launching with the new store.

There will be emails and there will be more opportunity to engage with our content. And I think that's coming. So that's exciting.

Asef Quader (34:58.136)
And that's going to happen. That will 100 % happen very soon, very soon. So if you're listening, once again, please subscribe to our email list. It's on the website. It will be down below in the links. Subscribe. You will be starting to see newsletters going out, talking about resiliency, talking about our episodes, talking about the lessons we've learned. It will be there. It'll be coming. We do want to form a community with all of you. That's the goal of all of this, to spread resiliency. All right.

I don't know why I slammed the table. Doesn't play well on. Jen, got three more minutes.

Dr Kelly Culver (35:29.636)
Well, cause we're out of time.

Jenn Quader (35:34.027)
I'll give you guys as much time as you need. I'll make it happen, my friends. I'm here for Resiliency, the podcast.

Asef Quader (35:39.585)
All right.

Last question, last question. Once again, close your eyes. Let's get into our dream state. I don't care about any roadblocks. I don't care about if it could even happen. I don't care if they are living or if they have passed. Who is a guest that you want to have on resiliency, the podcast.

Dr Kelly Culver (35:43.1)
Yay.

Jenn Quader (35:44.117)
Yay.

Dr Kelly Culver (36:11.908)
Okay, so someone who is not living, I would have loved to have been able to talk to Nelson Mandela.

Dr Kelly Culver (36:19.793)
and someone who is living, I would love for us to be contacted by someone who tells us this podcast has so profoundly changed his or her life that we could have them tell their story.

Asef Quader (36:33.848)
Are you listening guys? Send us an email. Let us know how we've affected you.

Jenn Quader (36:41.803)
For me, you threw me a curve ball with that, not living. For not living, it would be the great and wonderful Maya Angelou. I think that her words and her presence and her faith and all of that was the epitome of resilience. For living, and this is interesting because she has told her story a lot, but I've thought so much about her. She inspires me so much and her name is Salika Johad. She's a motivational speaker and a writer and a journalist.

someone who journals and she's the wife of John Batiste who's a famous you know musician you know etc. She has had a really public battle with cancer that she's continuing to face and yet she also has this ability to kind of move through in a way that's really magical. I'd love to see someone like that come and have a conversation with.

Asef Quader (37:32.942)
That's great. think, I think for myself, you know, it's funny. I just threw the not alive part in there, willy nilly. I don't necessarily, not alive is hard for me because I did think of one that's a little bit weird, but I think would make a fascinating episode. And that would be Trey Parker and Matt Stone.

Dr Kelly Culver (37:34.754)
Asef, asif, asif, make it happen.

Dr Kelly Culver (38:03.429)
yeah

Asef Quader (38:03.532)
I think... I think...

Jenn Quader (38:05.183)
Dude, will you guys come on our podcast? That would be so awesome! I wanna talk about Book of Mormon.

Asef Quader (38:10.466)
I think.

Asef Quader (38:15.158)
I think those two guys would make a fascinating episode and I love how they stick to their guns and what they believe and I really do appreciate people who do that in entertaining and...

Jenn Quader (38:18.027)
Hell yeah!

Asef Quader (38:30.146)
I want to say educational way. don't know how educational it is because it is kind of off the walls, stupid at times, but it's fascinating. love it. And from, as writers, I enjoy how they write.

from, you know, from, okay, from a, not alive, I think it would be very interesting to talk to someone like Tolkien. I'm a big nerd. I love Lord of the Rings. And I think talking to him about writing and the things that he went through to write that book would be fascinating. It's not the most entertaining thing. I think someone would find it very entertaining, this guy, but.

Jenn Quader (39:06.639)
I like his podcast would be like seven hours long, because his books are pretty long.

Dr Kelly Culver (39:10.224)
You would be. In eight installments.

Asef Quader (39:10.606)
You

Jenn Quader (39:15.339)
And the AID is solid! Exactly, and you need a new language. You need a new language to understand that there'd be a key.

Asef Quader (39:18.06)
That we would, and yeah, and we'd make them into like 12 movies and we'd make billions of dollars.

Dr Kelly Culver (39:22.394)
and costumes.

Jenn Quader (39:27.243)
Hey, now listen, resilience in a circle, guys, in a circle.

Dr Kelly Culver (39:27.969)
on,

Asef Quader (39:32.343)
You

Okay, I'm just going to follow up with one last question off script. Not that there's a script. What's one last thing that you guys would like to get across to our listeners for year two? What do you guys want to have our listeners learn? Why should they listen? What's going to happen? What do you think, Jen?

Jenn Quader (39:36.179)
my loves.

Jenn Quader (40:02.399)
I want them to know we're always there for them. I want them to know that, you know, you don't have to listen every day. You don't have to, like, we're not upset if you haven't watched every episode. You know, we all have lives and other things we're doing and things we're driving forward. Pop in when you can. I had a great person tell me once, you know, Jen, you can't get to everything all the time. Just be exactly who you are when you're able to show up.

I would love for that for our listeners. Join us when you can, open an email when you can, listen once in a while when you can. We'd love to be a part of your life in any way it makes sense.

Dr Kelly Culver (40:41.808)
I'd like people to find a spark in something that they hear that helps set them on their path.

Asef Quader (40:51.266)
I love that. That's great. No follow up for me. I think you guys nailed it. We just want to keep the resiliency movement going. So please join us everybody. Please sign up for the email. Sign up for subscribe to our podcast. Sign up on YouTube. Go buy a mug.

Dr Kelly Culver (41:13.69)
you

Jenn Quader (41:14.751)
Your Cup of Resilience!

Dr Kelly Culver (41:16.38)
That's right.

Asef Quader (41:16.5)
Exactly. Jen, Jen, tell people where they can find you.

Jenn Quader (41:21.365)
Please guys, you can find me anywhere online at Jen Quater, J-E-N-N-Q-U-A-D-E-R, and then my company, The Smart Agency, and resiliency, the podcast, of course.

Asef Quader (41:33.622)
And Dr. Kelly, where can people find you?

Dr Kelly Culver (41:36.24)
They can find me at culvergroup.ca and they can Canada. Here we are.

Asef Quader (41:39.869)
.ca because

Jenn Quader (41:42.303)
That's our ga-

Asef Quader (41:43.648)
Are you the princess, queen, ruler of the Great White North?

Dr Kelly Culver (41:48.26)
Empress. Today I'm an Empress in a black t-shirt. Yes. I'm an Empress in a t-shirt. So they can

Asef Quader (41:49.642)
Empress in a black t shirt.

Jenn Quader (41:52.369)
and present a t-shirt!

Asef Quader (41:56.14)
I think, by the way, I think I'm going to add a black Resiliency of the Podcast t-shirt to the merch. I think we need to get a black t-shirt. You know what? I'm to go back to our question of what do I want out of the next year? I want everyone who is a rabid Resiliency of Podcast fan to fall in love with black t-shirts and wear one in honor of Dr. Kelly. That's what I want.

Jenn Quader (42:01.161)
You have to, you have to. Yeah, you must, it's important.

Dr Kelly Culver (42:02.074)
Yah, yah, yah, yah, yah, yah,

Dr Kelly Culver (42:19.438)
Yes!

Jenn Quader (42:23.455)
Kali!

Asef Quader (42:27.308)
Maybe I should get a t-shirt that says, Dr. Kelly doesn't want me to wear this t-shirt.

Dr Kelly Culver (42:33.008)
Yep. Yep.

Jenn Quader (42:33.067)
I'd buy that.

Dr Kelly Culver (42:38.081)
dear.

Asef Quader (42:39.566)
Okay, well we're officially off the rails guys. That is our first year in the books. Thank you for listening. We do have a lot more in store for the rest of 2025. We actually have a lot of great episodes that are coming up that I am very excited for you guys to hear. We're going to be going strong. We have no end in sight. We want this resiliency movie, movie movement to keep going. We love you guys. Please tune in again. Two weeks from now we'll have another great episode for you.

Be happy, be resilient, stay strong, go out and help someone. There's someone out there that needs help, who needs to find resiliency, help them find it. We love you guys. Bye.

Dr Kelly Culver (43:22.47)
Thank you.

Jenn Quader (43:23.148)
Bye, thank you.